Burnham: Doctor, would you tell us what your diagnosis of the defendant is? Take me away, at least three times. Second: They questioned the psychiatrie testimony at the trial. The movie centered around an older, sexier female, played by Cheryl Ladd of the "Charlie's Angels" days. I didnt have any proof that he had touched her. My mother. He he kind of broke down one time in the hospital and said something. A victim of a form of Lou Gehrigs Disease, Lancaster suffered from periodic muscular atrophy. Lucinda went to call Anna, he said, and he struggled to his feet, went out the back door and stumbled to his neighbors house, where he fell to the floor again. Enjoy unlimited access to all of our incredible journalism, in print and digital. . She wanted me to come home with her because she didnt want to do it by herself. The deck had been stacked against her from the beginning. Nothing can happen to Lucas.. Its not as bad as it looks on TV, she says. The veteran jurist is the only judge at the courthouse who actually looks like one. Jim Burnham, a 10-year veteran of the DAs staff, had been chosen to prosecute the case. While she was in that horrible condition, he picked her up and held her in his arms, and I dont think many people would have done that. One of the most popular features of the Davis Papers website, these charts carry the extended family two generations beyond that of the Confederate president, and the direct line three generations past Davis. I think 1 did, yes. No, sir, I didnt. Well, how? Most of the film is a desperate hunt for the murder weapon. Nearly three decades later, JeromeStrange hopes the next call he receives will be the one he's been waiting for one where investigators tell him an arrest has been made in the case. . Because of her age, and the severity of the sentence, the appeal process captured almost as much attention as the trial. Yes, sir, Stout said. Before he met Patsy, John Ramsey had married his college sweetheart, an elementary education major named Lucinda Pasch, in 1966. Winds will begin to subside this evening. Email notifications are only sent once a day, and only if there are new matching items. Did you ever try to get her an attorney? Her brother Robert came home about 6, then left with some relatives. Genealogy of. Her job in the prison store pays her a little money, and she just bought a new watch. I do not. When she came back to the kitchen, she picked up some scraps in the sink to take to the dog. The girls had become friends in late 1976. They are manipulators and con artists, Grigson said. Lancaster redirected: Did the testing indicate anything that would lead you to believe that she would be a sociopath? Spencers battle was over. No, sir. She said, Anna, my mother is dead, and my father refuses to die, and I am going to shoot him again as soon as I hang up. Please enter valid email address to continue. Not long after David Stout arrived, they carried out Sharons body in a blood-stained canvas bag. In Texas, juvenile offenders as young as 15 can be certified to stand trial under the adult penal code if the prosecution can prove six things: That the crime is against person or property; that it was committed aggressively; that there is sufficient evidence to indict the defendant; that the crime reflects a previous pattern of lawlessness; that prospects for rehabilitation are slim; and that the child is relatively mature. No, sir. ***SPOILERS*** Somewhat confusing crime drama that's based on a true story, maybe that's why it's so confusing, about this parolee Lucinda Michaels, Cheryl Ladd, who gets involved with this very very very successful lawyer the sweet and very likable Clay Spencer, Mike Farrell, and takes him for the ride of his life; straight into the city morgue. She was very emotional and upset. It stays with you all the time.". Gaithers objection was overruled. After the session, he went for another test. David Lancaster could see that Lucinda, who until now had been cool, almost icy, was breaking under Burnhams relentless questioning. The methods were transformative, I use them to this day. But when she saw him in the office his first day back, it was like the two hadnt missed a beat. No. This was all the excuse a judge needed to order Luanda Stout tried as an adult. There were several other highly regarded psychiatrists who disputed Grigsons theory, and Lancaster planned to remind the jury of that. Lucinda had spent the night with her and had had an argument on the phone with her mother. And finally, he knew how much Lucinda had loved her mother. No, sir. Ben Spencer hugs his mother, Lucille Spencer, after he was released from the Dallas County jail in Dallas on Friday, March 12, 2021. "Lucas held her and comforted her, as far as we know I don't think she ever regained consciousness but we were comforted knowing she was being held in those last moments.". News4's Jackie Bensen reports. Following the murder of her stepmother, she announced she would pay her dues to her stepsisters, notifying only Arthur. No, sir. The Indiana Supreme Court has turned aside the appeal of convicted killer Susan Grund, ending her hopes of a shorter sentence. At some point, Stout said, he left Lucinda and Sharon in the kitchen and went to the living room to watch TV. When your father got back, did he have someone with him? It was a big move after she had a beautiful property she lived on for 16 years. Because my dad wasnt there when she got there. Then Lile heard the sound of wood snapping. It wasnt until after the service that she found out Spencers family had stopped by before going to her service. But he knew what he had to do. He was just a very dedicated man.. Gail Lile isnt sure if Spencers family will be able to make it, but no matter what happens, Spencer will always be a part of Liles story, and he a part of hers. He said he worked out of his home and also made house calls. See the complete profile on LinkedIn and discover Lucinda's connections and jobs at similar companies. The blood on one of the knives matched Sharon Stouts. Nick and Monroe scared Lucinda using a Murcilago Matraca, and Spencer then murdered Lucinda not only to save Taylor, but also to save Lucinda from herself. He believes his wife's death could have been a case of mistaken identity. Nellie Sanders (mother of Susan) remains convinced that others were involved in the murder of Jimmy besides her daughter. It's been years since any leads or tips have come in, according to investigators with Kentucky State Police. Were you getting up or were you lying down? Yes, sir. Puzo oversaw its installation last fall in memory of her friend. Lucindas confession and Bobby Stouts testimony would take care of the nature of the crime and the sufficiency of evidence. But in the spring of 2018, they found themselves at similar places in life. Were very proud of Lucas. Penfold sustained Gaithers objection. Among some fifty roles, she is known as Dr. Amber Volakis on American television show House, Clare Pettengill on British television show The Book Group, and Francine Hanson in the American television show Mad Men. Was Lucinda allowed to date? It was just completely shocking, Rudee said. A wife is on trial for the murder of her husband. The National Weather Service recorded an 89 mph gust in Louisville. She encouraged him to talk to her about it, the first time Lile had told someone outside his family or Spencers about what happened. I kept saying, No, no, it wasnt him. It was all up to Lucinda. I dont remember. It had even turned brother against brother. That could cut two ways. It was a big move after she had a beautiful property she lived on for 16 years. Liles was just beginning. David suddenly realized he had funeral arrangements to make, hospital accommodations to check on. But he knows that everyone with the name of Stout is paying a price for whatever happened in June 1977. She sat down next to her friend, Lucas who was helping her move in. The trial and punishment of Lucinda Stout. Did you ever sit down and discuss problems with her? Spencer is the upcoming biographical drama from Jackie director Pablo Larran. . It is not known to what degree Arthur was informed about this, only that he helped make sure the step family and Lucinda were never together. Take me away. Burnham asked if Robert had ever been at odds with his father before: . Copyright 2018 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. She is also the only female juvenile in the history of the state to be indicted for murder. A "very cute" scooter was drawn on the bag she received her food in. Yes. Chris Burt said hed talked to Lucinda a week before the crime. You killed one and now you want to put it on your dad . (62kg) Hair Colour Not at this time. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. Steve Amis had been trying to find her for a week. In between takes on GMA, she has been keeping her foot elevated. Yes. The young man really doesnt have an explanation for it. Under further questioning by the prosecutors, Robert went on to deny any knowledge of his fathers alleged extramarital affairs and the tension they had created in the household. One judge may be satisfied that a child is beyond rehabilitation on the basis of one or two psychiatric reports; another may want ten. Big Ms tend to reflect the current prosecutorial emphasis of District Attorney Henry Wades office. No, sir. He profoundly touched my life in three weeks. . No, sir. It was just kind of strange for her. The only point of dispute was where the blood was found and how it got there. All Rights Reserved. Since Lucinda is on parole for a previous offense, Detective Harding wants to make sure that she abides by the law and keeps her appointments with her probation counselor. But you had no girlfriends? You were better for just meeting him. Did yall meet Harry Stout somewhere last night? Of course, no one ever claimed she was much of an actress. Most nights, the young man is working. And you told him to leave it alone? I dont know what is true and what I have dreamed? She had a special little place out there she loved to go, Rudee said. But the next day, doctors told Rudee there was nothing more they could do. While recovering from her surgery, the Flea Market Flip host has had the best support system by her side. Friends of Spencers just so happened to live near the Lile family, and when they heard Lucas Lile was in between jobs, they told him Spencer was looking for help with her move. But now you want us to believe what you testified to is the truth? Opinion: Colorado farms going fallow? He was once again an impressive witness; he appeared to be a simple, hardworking husband and father, a man whod succeeded despite the handicaps of a teenage marriage and a lack of education. That is what Lile and Spencer were doing on the afternoon of April 17, 2018, when everything changed with a gust of wind and the sound of snapping wood. About 150 people showed up to Liles service, and for Gail Lile the day was a blur of condolences and hugs. But the police were adamant: No visitors; Lucinda Stout had been arrested on suspicion of murder. Lancaster asked Stout if he had talked about Lucinda with his brother David a few days after the crime. They were facing each other, and the tree had hit Lucas toes, but he was wearing steel-toed boots.. She died on 27 October 1956, in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma . Now rather than reveal any more, I will just say that I came across this movie by complete accident and after reading a short synopsis I decided to check it out. The morning June 11th, I think. Numerous trees have been uprooted, many people are without power, and roads have been closed due to vehicles being blown over. No, sir. Not at this time; I have never worn one. Can a psychiatrist predict future violence in a person with no recorded incident of violent behavior? I dont know what the facts are. "You want them locked up, but it's not a revenge factor," he said. Emergency workers tried to revive him, but he was declared dead on the scene. She is still pretty, with large dark eyes and delicate hands. Scattered storms (a few could be severe), mainly in Kentucky. You did understand that she was sixteen years of age The DAs office felt it had the goods on Lucinda Stout, but it wasnt sure how a jury would respond to the relentless prosecution of a 16-year-old girl. The Stout case was the first major test of these procedures, because the issues were complicated ones. In my opinion, I thought it was a pretty good relationship. And what was she doing? Lancaster came back on redirect. On the evening of June 10, Anna said, Lucinda and her father had come to the store about 10 oclock to pick up some meat. The appeal, prepared and argued by Racehorse Haynes and Houston attorney Randy Schaffer, raised two large questions. If you are in to dramas, it's definitely worth watching. From its enactment in 1973, Texas procedures for certifying a juvenile offender as an adult were used sparingly and with little publicity. His blood pressure went way down, Gail Lile said. And youre not going to lie for either one of them, are you? Spencer can frustrate with its idiosyncratic depiction of its subject's life, but Kristen Stewart's finely modulated performance anchors the film's flights of fancy. Are you upset with your dad because he wants your sister prosecuted for this offense, wants her punished for what shes done? After they left the restaurant, Lucinda and her father dropped Mrs. Stout off at home and went to the Villasana grocery store. He came home and thats when he just fell apart. Huh? I read her the rights, Kleinmeir replied. No, sir, my . Be that as it may, while certainly not a great crime-drama by any means, I found it to be a decent movie for the most part and I have rated it accordingly. Lucinda then murdered her in her woged form using her deadly sonic shriek. If Anna didnt want to testify against Lucinda, there was no way Gaither could force her. But his ailment worried him less than the opposing counsel and the judge who was hearing the case. We met him at his house. He was convicted in the 1987 deadly robbery of Jeffrey Young . He had one of the biggest hearts of anyone Ive ever met.. She is a customer, and her and her husband visited me at the hospital. Charged as an adult, she pleaded guilty to two counts of murder and assault with a deadly weapon, and was sentenced to life in prison with a chance of parole after 25 years. I was afraid for my life in my car., Wind gusts have reached up to 89mph in today's wind event. Lancaster was ready for Anna. Lucinda's family says she was the free spirit of the bunch. Rollin' into 2023 like well, I'm not exactly sure but it should be interesting at work!!!!!. The only motive she offered the police was that her parents had grounded her for two weeks and she was angry because of it. I especially liked the acting on the part of Cheryl Ladd who played her part in a solid manner. She apparently died at some point in the series, as in "Santabarbaratown 2" Shawn and Gus head to a firing range and notice an award for the Lucinda . In those weeks Rudee got to know the man who was beside her friend in her last moments, and the two became friends in their own right. He was quiet, he didnt go anywhere, that wasnt like him. Julian Clark said at the time. While investigators initially thought it might have been a fall, the coroners office ultimately ruled the cause of death heart disease. On paper, someone like Rattler losing his job does not make sense. But in the spring of 2018, they found themselves at similar places in life. I read the book "Deadly Seduction" and the movie leaves a lot out. He only knew her six weeks, Rudee said. Liles was just beginning. David tried to talk to Lucinda, hoping she would tell him what had. Again she said the gun was in the white car and the knives were in her mothers kitchen. Suite 2100 In proud memory of Lucas Robert Lile, the plaque reads. He was just so sad about what happened, Rudee said. Spencer had just broken up with her boyfriend and was moving off of the Lafayette farm property where she had lived for almost 20 years. It is all a true story. They were facing each other, and the tree had hit Lucas toes, but he was wearing steel-toed boots.. Could you have made that statement? Boulder County employee dies following fall at Heil Valley Ranch. May 10, 2018. Although I didn't expect too much initially due to the made-for-television format, I was somewhat surprised by how well it kept my interest pretty much from start-to-finish. I ran home and the police, they were going to be coming over. Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. Yes. Proving a previous pattern of lawlessness might be harder, since Luanda Stout had no record of criminal or violent behavior; but the seriousness of the offense matricide would probably compensate for that deficiency. I was. He was always laughing, joking. The courtroom buzzed like a lynch mob. How many times did she tell you she was going to kill her parents? I told my father and I told I told Mary Bolch. I was very grateful to be with her, Rudee said. Paige Lucinda Spencer, 41, of Walker Street in Concord, was arrested at 11:40 p.m. on Aug. 10, on a simple assault charge. Burnham said he had a couple of questions. Did you ever tell Anna or have a conversation with her about putting turpentine in your mothers lemonade and turpentine in your dads beer? Sanutti-Spencer said she wasn't anywhere near Spencer's house the day of the shooting, but instead at her mother's home in Selinsgrove, planning to spend the day with her boyfriend and son. "Right now, there is no one to vent that anger towards," JeromeStrange said. Then Lile heard the sound of wood snapping. When her husband finds out his wife has betrayed him he alters his will and she gets into a hurry. Although KSP said the case has been cold for years, investigators would still like to speak with anymore who has information about what happened March 25, 1990, in Bardstown, Kentucky. The note in the book was addressed to Lucas: We the family of Lucinda Spencer will be forever grateful for the care you gave her in the last hours of her life. Before he went back to work for the county, Lile had one more job. His mind was unaffected, but at times a walk around the block would tire him out. Dallas, Texas 75201. He hoped the jury understood that the States key witness had just given her third version of the phone conversation of June 11, 1977. 1 shot my father. The real point, however, was that the case of the State of Texas versus Lucinda Stout challenged the basic assumption of the American legal system where juvenile offenders are concerned: that the age of an offender can mitigate against the offense. Never even said it in jest or jokingly. No, sir. Peter Bernardo Spencer, 29, was invited by a co-worker to join him at a cabin in Rockland Township, Pennsylvania, on Dec. 11, according to his family. A year after her marriage to Arthur, Lucinda snuck out of the house one evening, apparently unaware of her husband and godfather's visit to Mavis that morning to ask for help recovering from a Ponzi scheme debt. He felt so bad because he couldnt save her. Well, I assumed he was going to try to hurt me. When Alexanders turn came to cross-examine, he found that for one of the few times in his career, he was genuinely angry with a witness. Robert said hed seen Angela at his dads shop. Hes a hero, hes my Superman. He had dropped out of school in the ninth grade and worked at various mechanics jobs. Since June 10 and 11, have you been afraid of what she might do if she was released? By the time she arrived at the hospital, Spencer was in surgery and all Rudee could do was wait and hope her friend would pull through. Did Lucinda tell him that night what she thought would happen to her as a result of the murder? Claire Scott is one of the 1980s best remembered characters. Lucinda was monitored regularly by her godfather, Spencer Harrison, who gave her everything that she wanted to make sure she stayed distracted from her family. His loved one was taken too soon in such a brutal and violent way. Yes, sir. Her cause and manner of death are still being investigated. Miss America, a Strip Club, International Travel, a Gangster Ex-Cop, Possible Lost Bodies, a Shoddy Medical Examiners office, the Japanese Mob, and an FBI . I said no, sir. You have a lot of older trees in the area. Why had Lucinda not called the police? Stout had testified at the certification hearing that he was lying on his right side when he was shot; but in testimony during the trial, he told Burnham he was trying to stand up when he was hit by the second bullet. Did you have any reason to kill your mother or father on June 6, 1977? He opened the door and his wife fell on top of him. The two were married for 12 years and had three children together: Elizabeth, Melinda, and John Andrew. A memorial stone with a plaque honoring Lile sits just to the side of an still unfinished and unnamed trail on Heil Valley Ranch open space, not far from where he died. Rehabilitation was favored over punishment; counseling over incarceration. No. He went to work Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. No. A couple of days later, she continued, Lucinda told her over the phone that she had to kill them, that she couldnt run away. Lancaster then called Lucindas brother to the stand. Claire then enjoyed a romance with Stewpot, before discovering he was seeing Annette Firman behind her back! The other court-appointed psychiatrist, Dr. Salem Ateek, said he believed Lucinda was disturbed, primarily by a hostile relationship with her father. He was the bane of any defense counsels existence. He and I helped clean up the house together, Rudee said. Bobby Stout had been wounded twice, once in the abdomen, once through the back. He had never before certified a juvenile. In the first full-length trailer for "Spencer," an upcoming bi Police found the couples daughter, Lucinda, standing over her wounded father in the living room of a neighbors house. The National Weather Service recorded an 89 mph gust in Louisville. "Vows of Deception" includes a convincing rise-and-fall structure of the central character Lucinda. Actor Matthew Gray Gubler, who played Dr. Spencer Reid on Criminal Minds, hasn't commented on being missing from the reboot, but Paget Brewster has confirmed the reason why. She had never met Lile, but she wanted to meet the man she had heard about from Spencer, the man who was there in her friends last moments of consciousness. Lucinda arrived a few minutes later, bent over him and said, Daddy, I love you. After injuring Arthur and making it clear that she never really loved him, Lucinda made a third trip out of the house to kill Taylor, but Spencer tipped Nick Burkhardt on this in time, indicating her sociopathic side. 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He was always laughing, joking. David said he was presently employed at his craft, hair styling. The only reason she confessed was that her father told her to take the rap: They wont do anything to you because youre a kid, she said Bobby Stout told her. "You have to go on with your life, so it comes with you. His soaring spirit leaves a trail of lasting memories.. What Clay doesn't realize, however, is that Lucinda isn't nearly as nice as she looks and he soon gets more trouble than he could ever hope to realize. Emergency workers tried to revive him, but he was declared dead on the scene. Its in the old part of Louisville, Louisville police Sgt. "I didn't ask my dad to kill him or hurt him in any way," she said. From the beginning, publicity obscured the real issue in the Stout case. One: Lucinda Stouts confession on June 11 was inadmissible because it violated two sections of the Texas Family Code and two areas of federal warnings rights law. 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